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The Ahkaam of Waleemah's Pertaining to Women...

-- 07-10-2003 @ 11:31 PM

ÇáÓáÇã Úáíßã æ ÑÍãÉ Çááå æ ÈÑßÇÊå

I've been searching for rulings pertaining to waleemahs, and haven't found anything comprehensive. I was hoping that the members on this board can help me out, inshaa Allaah. I'm sure that this will not only benefit myself, but also those that have the opportunity to read this thread.

Alhamdullilaah, we know that singing and the use of the ÏõÝøó duff (also pronounced as daf by many) is permissible during waleemas from the hadeeth narrated by Rabee` bint Mua`wwidh bin Arfa:

After the consumation of my marriage, the Prophet (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã) came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girl started beating the tambourines and reciting elegiac verses mourning my father who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, "Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow." On that the Prophet (sallaallaahu `alaihi wassallam) said, "Leave this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which ou had been saying before. (Hadeeth # 5147, Sahih Bukhaari)

As for dancing, Shaikh Al-Albaanee ÑÍãå Çááå said, as long as it is not a modern style or professional dancing (i.e. something that is professionally learned), then it is permissible for women (1). Moreover, Shaikh Ibn `Uthaimeen ÑÍãå Çááå mentioned that dancing is from the actions of women and that it is better to leave it for women (2). And, in another occasion, he ÑÍãå Çááå mentioned that dancing is evil, and that he does not rule in favour of it.

The questions that I'm looking for, in particular are:

a) What forms of dancing are permissible, and what are not? (More specific than note #1 below)
b) The duff is supposed to be open-ended at one side. Does it matter if the duff is drum-shapped (i.e. long), or tambourine shaped?
c) Is it permissible for women to clap while singing and beating the duff?
d) Is it permissible for women to zaqrat/ululu (i.e. the sound that comes out of the mouth when one moves their tongue) during waleemahs as a show of excitement, etc if they are far from where men can hear them?

ÃÝíÏæäí, ÃÝÇÏßã Çááå



Bint `Abdullah

This message was edited by Stranger on 7-10-03 @ 11:57 PM


Jilbaab -- 07-12-2003 @ 2:34 AM
As-salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

These two rulings should provide further clarification on some of your questions and statements.


The Ruling on Singing, the Rababah, the Duff and the Tabl in Marriages and Elsewhere

What is the ruling on singing, the Rababah, the Duff and the Tahl in marriages and elsewhere – are they unlawful or not, even though I listen to them as a pastime. What is the ruling on playing the Rababah and singing the old songs? And is beating the Tabl in marriage unlawful, since I have heard that it is lawful, but I don’t know?

Listing to singing is unlawful and detested, and one of the causes of sickness and hardening of the hearts, preventing them from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer. Most of the scholars have explained that the Words of Allah, Most High: “And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing)” [Soorah Luqman 31:6] refer to singing; and ‘Abdullah bin Mas’ud, the honorable Companion, may Allah be pleased with him, used to swear that idle talk (Lahw Al-Hadith) refers to singing. And if the singing is accompanied by musical instruments, such as the Rababah, the ‘Ud, the Kaman and the Tabl, the prohibition is even more severe.

Some of the scholars have mentioned that singing with a musical instrument is unlawful according to a consensus of the scholars. Therefore it is obligatory to abstain from it.

It has been authentically reported from the Messenger of Allah (Sallallaahu ‘Alayhi Wa Sallam) that he said: “There will be people from among my community who will declare lawful Al-Hir, (the wearing of) silk (by men), alcoholic drinks and Al-Ma’azif.” [Sahih al-Bukhari No. 5590]

Al-Hir means illegal sexual intercourse, that is, Zina; and Al-Ma’azif refers to singing and musical instruments. So I advise you and other men and women to read the Qu’ran frequently and remember Allah, the Almightly, the All-Powerful much, as I advise you and others to listen frequently to the Qur’an station on the radio, and the program Nur ‘Ala Ad-Darb, for in them there is great benefits and entertainment instead of listening to singing and music.

As for marriage, it is lawful to beat the Duff in wedding celebrations. Indeed, the Duff alone should be used to accompany the traditional singing, which does not call to forbidden things, nor praise that which is forbidden – during the night, just for the women, in order to announce the wedding and to distinguish the marriage from fornication. This has been authentically reported from the Prophet (Sallallaahu ‘Alayhi Wa Sallam).

As for the Tabl, it is not permissible to beat it in wedding celebrations; rather, one should content oneself with the Duff only. And it is not permissible to use loudspeakers in announcing the wedding, nor in the traditional singing, due to the great Fitnah entailed by that and the evil consequences thereof and the harm to the Muslims.

It is also not permissible to engage in such activity for too long. Rather, they should content themselves with a short period of time, during which the wedding may be announced. Because lengthening the time period leads to the Fajr prayer being lost and sleeping through the time when it should be performed, and this is one of the greatest prohibitions, and one of the deeds of the hypocrites.

Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Aziz bin ‘Abdullah bin Baz (Rahima-hullaah)
Source: Fatawa Islamiyah (Volume 5, pgs 315-317)


Some Detested Things in Weddings

His Eminence, Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih Al-‘Uthaimin – may Allah preserve him.

May the peace of Allah and His mercy and blessings be upon you.

Your Eminence the Shaykh, in recent times and on the occasion of the start of the summer holidays, the number of wrongdoings which occur during wedding celebrations has increased, in houses and in banquet halls. These are worse and uglier in banquet halls. These include; beating (drums) through loudspeakers, women singing, filming on video, and worse than that – the groom kisses his bride in front of the women.

Where is the modesty and the fear of Allah? When a word of advice is given by those who are zealous in avoiding those things which Allah has forbidden, they oppose them by sayings: “Shaykh so-and-so has ruled that it is permissible to use the Tabl.”

If this is correct, are there not some general rules and limits for this Tabl that could be made clear to everyone in order to control these irresponsible people? We request your Eminence to make the truth clear to Muslims, and may Allah reward you with goodness and make your knowledge beneficial, and may Allah grant you success. And may peace of Allah, His mercy and His blessings be upon you.

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. And may the peace of Allah, His mercy and His blessings be upon you.

The truth regarding the Duff during the days of the wedding feast is that it is permissible, or a Sunnah, if there is an announcement of the wedding, but there are conditions:

1. That the beating be with the Duff – and that is what is known to some of the people as Al-Tar – which is sealed at one end. The one that is sealed at both ends is the Tabl and that is not permissible, because it is a musical instrument, and all musical instruments are unlawful, except that whose permissibility is proved by some evidence – and that is the Duff during the days of the wedding celebration.

2. That it is not accompanied by forbidden things, such as base, undignified singing, which excites lust. Because this is forbidden, whether it is accompanied by a Duff or not, and whether it is during the days of the wedding celebration or not.

3. That is does not lead to Fitah, such as beautiful voices being heard by the men; so as this leads to a Fitnah, it is forbidden.

4. That it does not cause any annoyance to anyone, for if it causes annoyance to anyone, it is forbidden. Such as when the voices are heard via loudspeakers, because this annoys the neighbors and others who are disturbed by it and also, it is not without Fitnah. The Prophet (Sallallaahu ‘Alayhi Wa Sallam) forbade the worshippers in prayer from raising their voices over one another during recitation, as this causes disturbance and annoyance, so what about voices, Duffs and singing?!

As for photographing the gathering with a camera, no rational person would doubt that it is evil, and no rational person, let alone a believer, would accept that his Mahrams, such as mothers, daughters, sisters, wives and others, be filmed in order to become a commodity which is shown to everyone, or the subject of fun and entertainment from which pleasure is obtained by every dissolute person looking at them.

And more evil than this, is the recording of the gathering with a video camera. Because the event is recorded live, with picture and sound. This is something rejected by every person of sound mind and correct religion. It is inconceivable that anyone possessing modesty and faith would deem it permissible.

As for women dancing; it is evil and we do not rule in favor of it due to what we have been told about the evil consequences which take place as a result of it between women. And if it is done by men, it is even more evil. And if it is done by women and men together, as some of the ignorant people do, then it is even more portentous and evil, due to the mixing of men and women and the great Fitnah which it entails, especially since the occasion is one of marriage, and the desire engendered at wedding celebration.

As for what was mentioned by the questioner regarding the groom being in the presence of a number of women and kissing his bride in front of them, it is amazing that such a thing should come from a man whom Allah has blessed with marriage, then he greets her with this action which the Islamic Law, logic and morality condemn. How can he allow himself to take this action in front of women and in the state of desire engendered by the wedding celebration? And how can the family of the bride allow him to do so? Do they not fear that this man will see in this gathering of women one who is more beautiful and more attractive than his wife and that his bride might drop from his sight, and that many thoughts be revolving in his head, and that the end result between him and his bride might be unwelcome.

At the conclusion of my reply, I advise my Muslim brothers against undertaking such evil actions as these, and I call upon them to be thankful to Allah for this blessing, as well as others, and to follow the path of the righteous Salaf, being content with themselves with what was brought by the Sunnah, and not to follow the whims of a people who have misguided many and gone astray from the Straight Path.

And I ask Allah, Most High to grant my Muslim brothers and me success in achieving that which is beloved by Him and pleases Him. And that He helps us in remembering Him and thanking Him and improving our worship of Him. Verily, He is Near (to all by His Knowledge), Responsive. And may peace and blessings be upon our Prophet, Muhammad and upon his family and Companions.

Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih Al-‘Uthaymeen (Rahima-hullaah)
Source: Fatawa Islamiyah (Volume 5, pgs 317-320)

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