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 My father doesnt pray is he Stil a Walee for me?

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Removing the Guardianship of the Muslimah

Shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan ibn ‘Abdullaah al-'Ajlaan

Reference: Question and Answer session

Category: Women's Matters


I am a 23 year old Muslim sister who would like to get married, unfortunately, my father and most of my brothers do not pray. Only one of my brothers establishes the prayer but he is in prison. I would like to know if my father is still considered to be my Walee (legislated guardian) even though he does not pray, if not who can be my Walee? Is it possible for my brother to be my Walee and if so, how should we proceed?


If your father proclaims that there is no deity worthy of worship in truth other than Allaah, and that Muhammad is the servant and Messenger of Allaah, then he is a Muslim[1], and he is your Walee so long as he is not declared to be a disbeliever by a judge. If a judge declares him to be a disbeliever, then he is no longer a Walee, but as long as a judge did not declare him to be a disbeliever, then the basis is that guardianship belongs to him.

As for his relatives and companions who are around him, those who know of his state, that he has abandoned the prayer, it is upon them to advise him and his children that do not pray. It is upon them to be gentle with them, to call them to Allaah Ta’aala, to encourage them to practice good, to warn them from practicing evil and from the punishment of Allaah. Allaah Ta’aala said about the dwellers of the hellfire:

{What has caused you to enter Hell? They will say: "We were not of those who used to offer the Salaat}



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[1] The Shaykh here is not claiming that one who does not pray is still a Muslim, he is only making the point that he is not to be declared a disbeliever by the masses, his affair is to be brought back to the Islaamic Judges and they are the ones to declare him to be a disbeliever after the conditions have been met and the preventatives removed.


Translator: Nadir Ahmad, Abu Abdul-Waahid

Date Published: Sunday, 08 April 2007

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ولاية من لا يصلي على ابنته

الشيخ عبد الرحمان بن عبدالله العجلان

المرجع: سؤال و جواب

الباب: مسائل النساء

ان اخت مسلمة عمرى 23 وارغب في الزواج ولكن والدى واخوانى لا يصلون . فقط واحد يصلى وهو في السجن، هل يعتبر والدى ولي لي وهو لا يصلى؟ و من يمكن اتخذه ولياً؟وهل يمكن ان يكون اخى المسجون وليا لي, وكيك نصنع؟


اذا كان ابوك يشهد ان لا اله الا الله وان محمد رسول الله فهو مسلم ،وهو وليك ما لم يحكم بكفره حاكم. فاذا حكم بكفره حاكم فليس بولى ، وما دام لم يحكم بكفره فالاصل ان الولاية له وعلى من حوله من اهله ومعارفه ممن علم بحاله وتخلفه عن الصلاة ان يناصحه ويناصح اولاده الذين لا يصلون ، وعليه ان يرفق بهم ، ، وان يدعوهم الى الله تعالى ويرغبهم في الخير ويخوفهم من الشر ، ومن عقا بالله ونقمته، وقد قال الله تعالى عن اله النار

{ما سلككم في سقر قالوا لم نك من المصلين}


المترجم: أبو عبد الواحد نادر أحمد
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